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Making mountains out of molehills on “Royal oath”

There is heated debate going on in the comment thread of the Toronto Star story regarding the court case about 3 long-time permanent residents who want to become citizens of Canada, but who do not want to swear an oath to Queen Elizabeth, and are going to court to argue that they shouldn’t have to (natural-born citizens of Canada do not have to swear this oath or any other).

Personally, I consider myself a mild monarchist, but I can see their angle on things.. and I don’t let it get me worked up as it has some people on the comment boards (mostly in the pro-monarchy crowd, consisting of “go home if you don’t like it!, “you’re stealing away my rights!” etc.)

I wish people would get as passionate about more relevant political and social things then debating whether or not the Monarchy should be in the oath.. Canada would be a healthier political society for it.

UPDATE: Coincidentally enough, here is an article at Macleans discussing a study about Canadian apathy towards politics in general.


5 comments to Making mountains out of molehills on “Royal oath”

  • Murray

    I’m a natural born Canadian. I am anything but a monarchist. I have NO loyalty to ANY monarch whose only qualification is that they were born first into a royal family. I didn’t and never will swear any oath to some clown that happens to land in the right spot in the line of succession. So why should any other person be forced to do so in order to become a Canadian citizen? As far as that goes, Canada should have broken from the ‘commonwealth’ a long time ago.

  • jrkrideau

    There is no need for them to become citizens. Many people have lived in Canada for years as landed immigrants

    I’m rather of the opinion that the oath is an obvious requirement and they knew it before they arrived so tough.

    It a little like a fireman complaining about having to climb a ladder–it was obviously part of the job requiement.

  • Jemery

    Canada is a multicultural/multiethnic nation. If the oath goes against one’s cultural or religious belief then they shouldn’t be forced to take it. The world is here in Canada and that is reflected in our policies of multiculturalism. This is something we should respect.

  • Liam

    Sorry Scott.

    To me ‘mild monarchist’ reeks of surrender. Why do we have to swear an oath to anyone beyond our personal belief structure? Why a queen or king? I’m more loyal to my dog than someone across the pond, so why not swear an oath to Butch? The whole thing is so archaic and robs you of your own personal freedom every time you cave in.

    I agree with the other commenter: the time is now to get our act together and push this country in a new direction.

  • Observer

    So you want more passion about politics but when it comes you decry it.

    This is the problem of lefties writ large. Whenever there’s an issue, there’s always this not-so-small contingent that find some pseudo intellectual reason to be “contrarian-ish” and generally put a damper on the enthusiasm of their fellow lefty peeps. And then turn around and complain about politics.

    You should encourage debate, join it enthusiastically and make social connections to continually build a network of lefties so that there’s established channels to communicate amongst each other pre-existing the political issue you care about. When the group has spent its load on the one issue you don’t care about but joined anyways, you can then utilize the communication channels to point them at something you do care about when the time comes.

    Right wingers are always doing that, what with their endless newsletters, phony outrage, fundraising drives and other social organizing mechanisms.

    You guys need to learn from that. You want enthusiasm? Be enthusiastic.

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