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Think Ontario – 1985.

The news tonight: The Liberals will vote against and not support the so-called screw the opposition parties economic stimulus package. Neither will the NDP. Presuming all the Liberals show up to vote for this, (and they’d better) that leaves it in the hands of the BQ (paging Gilles Duceppes… paging Gilles Duceppes).

Now then, what if the government of Harper doesn’t back down and removes the attempt to remove the public financing of political parties, which has what caused this uproar in the first place? What if the Governor-General refuses his request for a dissolution and instead asks other parties in the House to try and gain its confidence and govern? Some people say coalition government. I think the way to go with this would be the accord which the Liberals and NDP did in Ontario in 1985 (h/t Cam). I think the basis of this would have to be the NDP and Liberals parties having to agree to certain legislative objectives, and then hope the BQ would support them on an issue by issue basis.

We live in interesting times, and as Steve said, the Cons. may have bit off more then they can chew with this little bluff.

UPDATE: Look at what Tom Flanagan, Harper’s neo-conservative mentor said in August:

“The path to Conservative political dominance is to financially bankrupt your opponents.”

Anyone who thinks that this cutting of public financing was anything other then this is either a liar or naive. Harper is following his mentor’s ideology to a tee.. Hopefully, it came back to bite him this time.

H/T Frank Frink of ACR in the comments of this blogpost


3 comments to Think Ontario – 1985.

  • janfromthebruce

    Scott, I think that the BLOC will step up to the plate here – this is going to be the “great depression of the 21st century” and we need states-people who are willing to put partisan politics aside for the greater good. This is not the time to play politics.
    I think that difference between 1985 and now, is that the working accord also means that this shared leadership means cabinet positions for the NDP. This is not exactly like Ontario 1985, and so it requires a working accord that actually shares power.

  • I think the 1985 accord would be a good base line on which to cooperate — and a lot of good came out of that, including on expanding the Human Rights Code to include gays and lesbians, the end of extra billing by physicians and equal pay for work of equal value.

    The caveat is that back in 1985 David Peterson had actually won the popular vote (narrowly) although with four fewer seats than Frank Miller, so he actually could claim he had moral authority to govern. Stéphane Dion on the other hand lost to Stephen Harper by 11.4%.

    Combined with the Jack Layton’s NDP they might conceivably be able to overthrow the Cons, but the Bloc? That’s a real wildcard. True, you see separatist parties working with the governing party on all sorts of issues in Belgium, Spain and Italy — but Canada?

    As progressive as the Bloc is, The Question will always be, well, the question; and die-hard Liberals who have dedicated their lives to destroying separatism would well wonder if it’s a deal with the deal or a deal of necessity.

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