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The tough guy Cons don’t want to look like wimps pleading for death-penalty clemencies.

When even the normally conservative supporting National Post rips the Conservatives for their decision to no longer ask for clemency for Canadians sentenced to death in other “rule of law” countries, you know its a pratfall on the Cons. part.

It didn’t help the Cons. when Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day more or less admitted pleading for clemency didn’t fit in with the tough-guy image this government is trying to portray on law and order. That explanation by Stock of how wimpy a plea for clemency would make the tough-guy Conservative government look explains why last week the Dept of Foreign Affairs made the pretty clear statement that it was backing the call for clemency, and why on Monday, after some of Harper’s image consultants apparently thought it over, the Cons. decided that wouldn’t look good on the Cons. (the abrupt flip-flop on this was first pointed out by Kady O’Malley)

Even the Post finds this “inappropriate”. For myself, I have to wonder if the Conservative Government still supports the UN declaration for a moratorium on using the death penalty, which its UN representatives proclaimed they supported last week. Were they also offside, as was apparently the Dept. Of Foreign Affairs, who bluntly proclaimed that Canada doesn’t have a death penalty and doesn’t believe in it, only to be issuing a statement 3 days later that parroted Stock Day’s proclamation that any Canadian sentenced to death in a country using the “rule of law” deserves to get fried?

The Post is right. If the Cons. want to change Canada’s stance and views over the death penalty on this, Parliament and a vote is where this is required, not issuing public statements and in effect deciding if they can’t get the death penalty here, supporting it elsewhere (talk about outsourcing!) will do just fine and dandy.

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13 comments to The tough guy Cons don’t want to look like wimps pleading for death-penalty clemencies.

  • KC

    "I have to laugh thinking how the left would scream if the US tried to intervene in our legal system as we do to theirs."

    Hmmm you mean like the way Americans interfere with respect to our drug policy?

  • Jim

    In this instance the convicted man killed two men, is his own words… "to see what it was like to kill someone". This was 25 years ago and the convict has gone through every appeal and legal option open to him under US law.

    Now you lefties want the government of Canada to intervene on the behalf of this convicted, cold blooded, double murderer? Waste countless millions of taxpayer dollars to bring this POS back to Canada so we can pay $90,000 a year to keep him?

    I shake my head.

    Hey, why don’t we bring him back and let him free ala Karla Homolka? There are some very basic problems with the Canadian justice system and I am behind the Conservatives attempting to repair these issues 100%.

    I have to laugh thinking how the left would scream if the US tried to intervene in our legal system as we do to theirs.

  • Oldschool

    A citizen goes to a democratic country and kills someone, gets convicted of murder and sentenced to death . . . and some want to bring him back to Canada . . . sooo nuts!!!
    What would happen to him in Canada . . . he would do a few years, be released to a halfway house in say Vernon . . . be roaming the streets and probably kill again. Then the lefties would wring their hands and blame the govt for bringing this loser home.
    I know this is hard for some . . . but if you do the crime . . . you pay the price.

  • Gee, another Dion Liberal supporter weeping crocodile tears over Harper’s right-wing agenda while the Liberals roll over into a majority coalition with the Conservatives.   Colour me shocked.

  • I am sure the Liberals could use an opposition day motion to bring a vote of confidence on this.

  • Well Scott, will the Liberals fight an election over this?

  • Gee, another NDP supporter going after Dion rather then Harper. Colour me shocked.

    Do you REALLY think Harper would make the death-penalty issue a confidence vote? Even I don’t think he’d go that far.

  • Scott said: "If the Cons. want to change Canada’s stance and views over the death penalty on this, Parliament and a vote is where this is required"

    Is that really wise?  Rather than vote their supposed principles, one could easily expect the Dion Liberals to roll over and support the Conservatives on this.  If they weren’t prepared to stand up to Harper against ending Canada’s role in Kyoto, the GST cut, or Harper’s timeline on Afghanistan, why should anyone expect them to on clemency for people on death row in the US?  Honestly.

  • wilson

    I wouldn’t have any problem repatriating this monster , if  a ‘life sentence’  was for life. 
    But if the US hands him over to us,  he’s served his 20 years and will be free to kill again.

    Evil said he did it  ‘to see what it was like to kill somebody, not a big deal’.

    Perhaps that’s where PMSH wants this issue to go.  Where life means ‘life’, not automatic parole after serving 20, in cases like this.

  • Manuel

    seeking clemencey is not a policy, their is nothing in our constitution that says we have to petition for the lives of Canadian criminals abroad. If the guy was in a place like Iran then I would be all for bringing the guy back cause he probably got a raw deal, but if you look at the merits of this mans case, the only canadian on death row abroad. Then you really can’t say much. The second a Canadian leaves canadian soil you are now subject to the laws of the country you are currently in. Don’t get me wrong I don’t support the death penalty but if you go somewhere that has it and do something to merit it your screwed. Personally Im amazed those morons who let loose a free tibet banner aren’t dead. I wouldn’t be rushing to their rescue because thats the risk they took doing something so dumb.

  • And silly old me thought that anything about the death penalty, would be in  our Constitution, If so,  Day can’t change anything without permisssion of the opposition.

  • there’s so much that’s disturbing about this – the Cons linking death penalty to tough on crime; the vicious, bloodthirsty response from right wing extremists cheering – CHEERING -and calling for the return of the noose with mindless phrases like an eye for an eye, you do the crime, you do the time…
    However, one big point is often missed in this particular case, one you mention – that this policy change was announced by Day – without debate.  That is undemocratic, scary, un-Canadian, appalling!  Good for the Post for mentioning it!  Thanks!

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