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– Remember when former US Vice-President and now noted environmentalist Al Gore called the Conservative climate change plan “a complete and utter fraud.. designed to mislead the Canadian public” and Environment Minister John Baird had a public meltdown? For that reason, I somehow doubt Baird will be sending Al Gore a congratulatory note for him co-winning the Nobel Peace Prize:

The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 is to be shared, in two equal parts, between the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and Albert Arnold (Al) Gore Jr. for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change.

– I see elsewhere Harper is so sure Dion and his Liberal advisers won’t want an election that he is going to put in remarks in the Throne Speech that says Kyoto targers are unattainable. This isn’t exactly unpredictable, after Liberal MP Brian Wilfert openly mused about this “disapprove by abstaining” strategy.

This a) either wasn’t a very wise move to be talking strategy and letting Harper see the playbook so he could get the idea he could be this brazen about it, or b) the Liberals were/are being clever in doing so in order to bait Harper into something like this so that they had justification for forcing the government down. If it’s the 2nd reason, I’ll give kudos to them, but only if I learn that to be the case, because I’m skeptical. I just throw it out there so I can be the first to take credit if they eventually reveal that was the strategy ๐Ÿ˜‰

To say I’ll be extremely dismayed if Harper goes through with this statement in the Throne Speech, and the Liberals still pull their “disapprove by being absent” strategy is an understatement. Principles, Liberals, principles. There is a time and place to show that we cannot allow something to pass and to show the Canadian public we’re committed to an ideal, and this is one of them, if Harper pulls this stunt.

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8 comments to On the Environment

  • Deb Prothero

    Gore’s movie did not specifically advocate ethanol but rather a wide based approach. The ethanol idea is coming from the farm lobby in America.

  • Al Gore

    If Harper was to buy a dog and name it Kyoto, would that satisfy you doomsayers?

    How many millions of poor third worlders will die as a result of Gore’s farce of a movie that has helped drive the whole ethanol fuel fiasco that has already driven the price of corn and wheat and fertilizer to record levels?
    The prize committee should give themsleves a Nobel prize for stupidity.

  • Deb Prothero

    Well, Harper is scaaaary.
    But, that tune won’t play. The Canadian electorate wants to win on the environment and they want some leadership on it. Harper is incapable of this even if he became born again on the issue. Last year’s attempt fell flat because he didn’t believe in it even after he supposedly became born again.
    Dion is the one to provide the leadership and he is capable of doing it. He just loves to be underestimated.
    I agree on the vote on the Speech though. Deeds speak volumes. They have to vote as a united party and force Harper to look the fool. I don’t care one way or the other if they vote against or abstain but every single Liberal better be in that house to vote.
    BTW, I sent in a donation today. Hope everyone else is doing their part.

  • Except that Canadians think that Dion and Harper would do about the same amount of good on the environment portfolio. Unless Dion can mightily politicize the environment issue during an election campaign (and he hasn’t been up until now), it’s not a winner for the Liberal Party.

    I guess this is where the big hidden agenda thing comes into play. "Harper’s scaaaary!"

  • 2/3 of Canadians believe the current government is not doing enough for the environment. A majority believe we should keep to the spirit of the Kyoto Accord, which we signed. Studies show that the "massive job losses" predicted by Baird and his conservative parrots are over-exaggeration’s.

    If you guys want to go intro a fight over climate change, I say let’s go.

  • wilson

    You are suggesting that Canadians want to save Kyoto,
    when the reality is,
    Canadians want to save the environment.

    Canadians will be asked:

    Reach Kyoto targets now, with huge amounts of cash thrown into some other country’s coffers,
    and a slow down in the Canadian economy,
    resulting in many lost jobs, replaced by low paying green jobs,  across Canada
    (remember over 40% of the jobs created by the oil industry are OUTSIDE of Alberta)
    or

    Kyoto targets reached, by slowing and then reversing ghg emmissions, over a 13 year period, at a cost the Canadian economy can absorb with some negative but not devasting results

  • This whole showdown over the throne speech is really getting interesting.  How far will Harper go to try to force the election?  How far will the Liberals allow Harper to go before it gets to be too much?  Does anyone want an election?  Does everyone want an election?

    I say we do like you suggested, and keep up this charade, and then when the Conservatives put all their bad goodies in the speech, pull a, "If you were going to be reasonable, we could have stopped this election.  They thought we didn’t want an election, and see how bad they’re screwing this up?  What would happen if they didn’t have to moderate themselves to try to win our support?"

  • The question now is whether  Al Gore will use his Nobel Peace Prize as a springboard to launch a presidential campaign.   Hundreds of  "Draft Gore"
    groups across the U.S. are asking him to do just that.   Among other things, they feel he is "owed" the presidency because he was robbed in 2000 when he won the popular vote.  If Gore does throw his hat in the ring, all bets are off.  He would  be formidable candidate to head of Hillary Clinton.

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