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Climate Change must be (and will be) an important issue during the election

As i sort of mentioned briefly in my post highlighting the Mar 31 Blogging Hotstove, I rejected Tasha’s (and to some extent Greg’s) argument that the environment would become an irrelevant election issue. Antonio made the very good counter-point that if it was going to be an irrelevant issue, why were the Tories still throwing money and announcements out there at environmental projects? I’ve already briefly argued in that post that Bill C-30’s amendments and the government possibly refusing either to let that bill process and/or falling on it or the subsequent alternative it will be offering makes sure the environment will continue to be an election issue, whether the Conservatives and their supporters like Greg and Tasha want it to or not, because it remains an extreme area of vulnerability for them.

Another thing that will keep it in the spotlight are reports like this that show Canada faces grim consequences if we do not act:

By the end of this century, fires will consume twice as much forest annually in Canada, a fifth of the currently snowy Arctic will be greened by tundra and Great Lakes water levels will have plunged still lower, international scientists are going to warn this week in an authoritative climate change report…Yet Canada and the U.S. are ill-prepared to adapt to such almost-certain impacts from climate change, leaving their citizens vulnerable. This grim regional picture is contained in the second report this year from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, to be published Friday.

The media will publish the report, but it is our job as opponents to Harper’s callous lack of disregard for the environment (not to mention scepticism and opportunism) to make sure these reports are hammered over and over into Canadians consciousness to make sure Harper’s attempts to make the environment a non-issue are rejected.

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15 comments to Climate Change must be (and will be) an important issue during the election

  • Yeah, you got me, Scott. Not only am I stupid, but I’m a liar. And I’d bend over backwards to cover up my mistakes. Argh! I hate it when my vices get a public airing.

    But seriously. You’re much more lovable when you’re not so cranky. Save the vitriol for Werner Patels.

  • Well.. I did clarify it for you a bit better then how I originally said it. The idea remains the same. As far as I’m concerned, you made a silly accusation and remark over there and got burned and tried to claim you were being ironic about it. “You’re an anti-semite – NOT! I was only being ironic”… yea.. that’s a barrel of laughs, only said, by the way,after getting taken to task for it. The Perly Rae point was just ironic icing on the cake, eh? :em46:

    As for Jason.. I didn’t realize 1 blogger’s opinion represented “the team” of 360 Prog Bloggers or 275 Liberal Bloggers as to what they post or talk about.

    Seriously Aaron, you’re not up to form tonight.. you’d better get some sleep.

  • “Yes, I regularly accuse people of being anti-semitic on a daily basis here, Aaron.”

    Have you heard of that person named Cherniak?

    “..and nice attempted backtrack at saying you were just being ironic at Michelle’s site.. she certainly didn’t think so.. and no one else did. You’ve just got yourself caught at being exposed for not knowing what you’re talking about… “ironic” is the word idiots use to say they can say whatever they want that isn’t true.”

    I really, honestly have no idea how to respond to this. And believe me, I’ve been thinking about it.

  • Yes, I regularly accuse people of being anti-semitic on a daily basis here, Aaron :em39: As for the reference to “our team”, I don’t know whether you’re referring to the Liberal Bloggers or the Progressive Bloggers.. but in either case, I’ve not seen that accusation of yours to be true.

    ..and nice attempted backtrack at saying you were just being ironic at Michelle’s site.. she certainly didn’t think so.. and no one else did. You’ve just got caught at being exposed for not knowing what you’re talking about, and so now you’re trying to weasel out of it by trying to state it was just “ironic”…. uh huh. What a cop-out.

    Conservatives never can take responsibility for their actions when they’re proven wrong.. and you’re an excellent case example for it.

  • Oh, geez. People are kind of sensitive around here. I don’t think this blog is boring. Otherwise, you’re right, I wouldn’t bother to drop by. But if you plan to start using it to drive home a particular message in order to advantage the Liberal Party, it will become boring. If I wanted that, I’d read an LPC campaign brochure. As for Oliel, I was being ironic. In case you haven’t noticed, it’s your team that has lately fallen in love with making accusations of anti-semitism.

    “Scott, what exactly did you say to Aaron to give him the idea that his opinion means anything beyond a momentary chortle and a head shake around here?”

    Nothing, actually.

  • A yes, Kathy Shaidle – so deranged, making Kate McMillan look like a Dipper, since 2004.

    Scott, what exactly did you say to Aaron to give him the idea that his opinion means anything beyond a momentary chortle and a head shake around here? You really gotta watch it or he is going to think he’s hurting your feelings or something.

    Poor sod, must be lonely over at The Politic after Pete Rempel left…

  • janfromthebruce

    Just because the Cons game plan is to make climate change and environment a non issue does not mean that it will happen. It is the issue and everything revolves around it. Take war – now what is it really all about?

  • As an expert in Boring blog material that Matters (TM), I congratulate Scott for taking the long and boring road on the way to Canadian prosperity. The Exciting blog material that Doesn’t Matter (TM) can remain Kathy’s expertise. I’m sure it helps her sleep at night knowing she has so many people trundling down the road to hell with her.

  • Aaron opined:

    [quote post=”412″]Which will make this blog reeeaaaaallllly boring. :em31:[/quote]

    Well Aaron, thats your opinion (which Idont pay too much attention to anyhow), and you’re certainly not obligated to come here and read the blog or leave comments if you find the topics boring.

    [quote post=”412″]Why don’t you talk about the things you want to talk about instead of doing what you think your partisanship obligates you to?[/quote]

    Actually, I’ve been talking about climate change before I became a Liberal, thanks very much.. or did you miss that? I’ve felt its an important topic for awhile.. and if I didnt think it was important, I wouldnt be posting about it – partisanship or not.

    This comment you’ve left isn’t quite up there in stupidity as when you recently went over to Michelle Oliel’s site and called her an anti-semite – when she’s Jewish – and then accused her of campaigning against Bob Rae’s wife – when she was Bob’s Deputy National Whip – but its pretty close.

    I feel for you if its boring over at your site right now.. but don’t take it out on me by leaving inane commentary here.

  • “it is our job as opponents to Harper’s callous lack of disregard for the environment (not to mention scepticism and opportunism) to make sure these reports are hammered over and over into Canadians consciousness to make sure Harper’s attempts to make the environment a non-issue are rejected.”

    Which will make this blog reeeaaaaallllly boring. :em31:

    Take a lesson from Kathy Shaidle. Why don’t you talk about the things you want to talk about instead of doing what you think your partisanship obligates you to?

  • Whooee! I reckon some folks figger Harpoon’s neutralized the issue with them bigass announcements of cash fer ecoEnergy an’ his true confession that he believes in anthropogenic climate change.

    I wouldn’t be writin’ off the Greenies just yet. Lizzie May ain’t got a bigass warchest like the old-line bigtime parties so you ain’t gonna see the GPC spendin’ much on ads before there’s any election called. Waste not, want not. It goes fer campaign money like it goes fer energy.

    Green support’s growin’ an’ Green EDA’s are havin’ nomination meetin’s an’ they’re gettin’ bigger turnouts (2x, 3x) than ever before. In other elections, the GPC candidates have been mostly university students. Older Canajuns is gettin’ involved. In Brantford, all three Greenies who was lookin’ fer the nod were in their 50’s. Former MP Peter Itinuar was one of ’em.

    JimBobby

  • Thats not what I heard… it was an exchange between Tasha and Antonio, and I highlighted Antonio’s response to it. If I misheard that, or you didnt contribute to that part of the debate, my apologies, Greg. But Antonio says the same thing.

  • I will have to listen to it again but I thought we were talking about the Green Party not being a player not that the environment would not be an issue.

  • Lneumannca:

    I’d be shocked with all the public pronouncements Harper and Baird have been making on their plan and on Baird laughably claiming that the amended C-30 is weaker then the Tories original version that you will see the Tories accept this. I still expect them to come up with their own environmental plan and try to claim its better then the amended Bill C-30 version. Whether they fall on it or not is up to them… but its not a money bill or a supply bill.. and they all claim they don’t want an election.. so we’ll see.

  • While I would love to see an election over climate change (as a chance for a good discussion of the issues), if Harper was smart he’d take the amended Bill C-30 and implement it. That would be the only way to “neutralize” the issue – at least for this election.

    Although I would love to get rid of Harper, even more important is to do something about climate change. By all rights, it SHOULD be a non-partisan issue. I just hope that Monbiot is wrong when he says that what voters _really_ want is for their governments to “try and fail” to deal with the issue. Because that opens the door to silly ideas like “intensity targets”.

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