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The Tories chance to prove they’re committed to the Environment:

Well, here is the chance for the Conservatives to show Canada whether they really are a “green” Party now, or if its all just bluster designed to hold off an election defeat:

Members of Parliament will be voting Monday evening on a motion from Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion that would reaffirm Canada’s support for the Kyoto Protocol….Dion’s motion demands the government “honour the principles and targets of the Kyoto Protocol in their entirety,” and calls on the Tories to create and publish a “credible” plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

Jack Layton has indicated he and his party will be supporting the motion:

“We have the chance to make it happen,” he said, adding his party has always supported the Kyoto accord.

It appears though early indications are the Conservatives will be voting against this motion:

When asked how the Conservatives will vote, Minister of Environment John Baird declined to answer directly but said “in the best interest of Canadians. CBC News has learned that Conservative MPs will have to vote the way the party says, meaning they’re unlikely to support Dion’s motion.

Surprise me, Minister Baird. Let’s see if you’re really committed to saving Canada’s (and the world’s) environment. I unfortunately believe that’s  all rhetoric, and you’re still the party that believes Kyoto is “a socialist scheme” designed to suck money out of rich countries, and that “so-called” Greenhouse gases arent really a big deal.

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11 comments to The Tories chance to prove they’re committed to the Environment:

  • scott

    the clean air act is nothing more than the harper govenment to lable this the new government.they want to make this associated with Harper’s vision and will not hood wink the majority

  • BBS

    “and my belief in you as a moderate is restored (for now)”
    To add insult to injury next thing you know you’ll be calling me (gasp) a progressive. :em57:

  • [quote comment=”1368″][quote comment=”1355″]Ah.. so you’re using the new Blogging Tory nickname smear on Dion as well, eh BBS? You disappoint me. I thought you a bit more of a moderate then the majority of the rabble over there at Blogging Tories Inc.
    [/quote]

    Ahhh…. I think you’ve got your acronyms mixed up.[/quote]

    Oops..so I did, BBS :em41:

    My apologies.. and my belief in you as a moderate is restored (for now) :em46:

  • BBS

    [quote comment=”1355″]Ah.. so you’re using the new Blogging Tory nickname smear on Dion as well, eh BBS? You disappoint me. I thought you a bit more of a moderate then the majority of the rabble over there at Blogging Tories Inc.

    As far as I know, BBS.. the Tories never made their original Clean Air Act bill a motion of confidence either. And they shouldn’t have, if they’re going to live up their promise of only making supply bills a motion of non-confidence.

    Dion is merely doing the same thing.. and also to show the apparent Tory hypocrisy on the whole environment issue[/quote]

    Ahhh…. I think you’ve got your acronyms mixed up.

  • knb

    Olaf, I’m surprised to see you reduce Kyoto to simply “meeting targets”.

    I think that Harper made a strategic error tonight, (like those silly ad’s that did nothing apparently). Hypocrisy is becoming this guy’s middle name. Say you agree or say you don’t and get out. You cannot have it both ways.

    On the other hand, the Lib’s have to be much clearer on what Kyoto entails. The framework is important to highlight, not for political gain, but for the reality of what it means in terms of voice Internationally.

  • Olaf:

    We have signed the Kyoto protocol, along with 140 other nations. Yes. we’ve slid.. but we are bound by treaty to try and meet those targets… and we shouldnt be throwing up our hands in th air like Harper and Baird are doing — as the Star said, that’s no excuse for not trying.

    If Harper really doesnt believe in it, aside from whipping his party into voting against the motion tonight, he should take a stand (however wrong I think it is) and formally pull Canada out of the “socialist money-sucking scheme” treaty. He won’t however, because he knows he’d be reduced to the Alberta rump and a few rural seats in the next election.

    But, if he’s a principled guy and he thinks its a “worthless” treaty, then he should follow his principles and pull out of it formally.

  • Ah.. so you’re using the new Blogging Tory nickname smear on Dion as well, eh BBS? You disappoint me. I thought you a bit more of a moderate then the majority of the rabble over there at Blogging Tories Inc.

    As far as I know, BBS.. the Tories never made their original Clean Air Act bill a motion of confidence either. And they shouldn’t have, if they’re going to live up their promise of only making supply bills a motion of non-confidence.

    Dion is merely doing the same thing.. and also to show the apparent Tory hypocrisy on the whole environment issue

  • Seriously Scott,

    I’ve said it a million times: you don’t need to promise to meet an arbitrary target that no one could meet in order to prove oneself as environmentally friendly. Dion himself said the targets can’t be met not long ago (not just to Ivison either… it’s in Wells book that Dion said, if Martin won the 2006 election, he’d have to admit the targets couldn’t be met).

    Kyoto isn’t the be all and end all. I’m so sick of the “if you believe in global warming, you have to agree with the Kyoto protocol” line of reasoning. It’s no different than “if you support our troops, you support the mission in Afghanistan”.

    Yours truly,

    :em36:

  • Oh, plueeze.

    If Citoyen thinks that living up to Kyoto is so damned important why didn’t he introduce this non binding motion as a non confidence motion instead?

    Is he scared that he might have to go to an election?

    I wonder.

  • knb

    The Conservative’s have been whipped to vote against, which tells me they have a either a strategy that they think is a winner, and/or, a deal with the NDP.

    What also add’s to this is the fact that for the 2nd time, Baird has cancelled his attendance at the Environmental Committee.

    This is pure politics now, nothing more. Ezra Levant is out and about in Ottawa, stating that he hopes that Harper is just doing the appropriate window dressing to satisfy the east, but will do nothing substanstial that may touch the west and the Oil Patch.

    How much clearer could it be?

    Wake up Canada. While it’s true that every political party operates in a manner that will favour them, our PM is playing a dangerous game here, IMO.

  • Surprise as I pointed out in my blog posting and it has been confirmed on Don Newmans Politics, the Conservatives are whipping the vote against the Liberal motion. Rahim Jaffer was on Don’s show and confirmed the rumour.

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